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Old 10-11-2019, 07:01 PM
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Nope,
I'm the world famous Sparky.
I havent flown CL for around 45 years I gave two brand new .35 stunters ready to go. I got them at an estate sale they are both much nicer than I could ever build.
I think the Thimble Drone was some sort of a trade mark that Cox used. So likely that's the handle I'm referring to.
Yes I think Spider wire would be a great fit for current small CL airplanes.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:36 PM
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Sparky, We need to do some control line after one of our races. If you bring one, I'll being one. It'll be famous Sparky, and famous Greg!
Old 10-12-2019, 07:29 AM
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Already Pylon racing famous Sparky and Greg. You'll have competition from the previously famous Control Line stunt Sparky.
Old 11-01-2019, 05:20 AM
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Back in 1965 when i was 8 years old my cousin Mark ( who my wife calls the "good Mark" as opposed to me the "evil Mark") went off to join the navy and gave me his Wen-Mac Turbojet control line plane. I tried for many hours to get the engine started and after getting some help and finding out that a 6 volt lantern battery instantly fried the glow plug I was able to make a few short attempts at flying before it was destroyed. So it was on to various Cox RTF's up to the highly prized Stuka. After those models were all "used up" I had a collection of Cox 049s around. I went to a local hobby store in Clinton Connecticut named Dave's Hobbies and purchased a Sterling Beginners Spitfire and a Dave converted one of my 049's to a tank mount. The rest is history as they say. From there it was many 1/2a planes then onto a Sterling Ringmaster my first "Big" C/L kit. I wanted a Fox 35 but couldn't quite deliver enough newspapers to afford the $11.95 price tag so I got a K&B Stallion 35 fro $7.95. I still have that engine not because it was so good but to remind me of how many Ringmasters it cost me when it quit doing an overhead maneuver. I still have a Ringmaster but this one has an L&J Fox 35 up front. Been a modeler ever since. Both RC and CL.
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Got a cox PT-20 for Christmas - maybe 1968. was in the 9th grade. After a few repairs and finding that the lines would not stay tight no matter what at 25', I shortened the lines to @ 17 or 18 feet, and I had much fun with that plane, as under-powered as it was with a cox 0.020 engine. Got a an .049 golden bee and several jars of Pactra dope from a kid at school who didn't want it (I could believe that - think I gave him something like 2 bucks for all of it) and built a goldberg Lil' Satan, and have been hooked since. Later got a Cox Medallion .15 that lasted thru a Jr Ringmaster and a Magician .15. LOVED the Magician and really learned how to fly CL on that. Still have the Cox engine, although getting a glow head for it is probably not gonna happen. That engine ran really well on Fox Missile Mist (expensive at $2 a quart). Later I got a K&B Stallion .35 and a Midwest Panther - real fun there. Ah, the memories.
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Cox p-51 plastic with string control lines, about 1966-68. Took 2 days to fly because I thought that the elevator was pushing air down, the plane should go up. Durable sucker, to bounce so many times and still fly.
Old 02-06-2020, 01:24 PM
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If I remember correctly, the coil burned out at the tip mostly I wonder if it would be possible to drill, ever so little, (1/64th"), barley enough to fit coil wire. Just enough to use tweezers to put the tip of the coil in it. Get contac, and maby a glow. nce it starts, its running.
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$7.90 where are those deals today? Best fun money you ever spent.!
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We used to take a needle or pin and move the coil until it touched and made contact, put it back on the engine, and many times it worked to get it started.
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I saw a post earlier, at 73 a member cant fly any more, couldn't turn and turn. Problem solved, 1 line to a post about 4 ft deep with a ring and a mono cable. A a Radio with 1 servo. Sit back in a lawn chair, and have at it. A heavy duty swivel on each end of the line would allow endless loops. Have fun.
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Old 02-06-2020, 08:50 PM
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Jag look on the internet for Cox glow plugs they are available.
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Originally Posted by elmshoot
Jag look on the internet for Cox glow plugs they are available.
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https://coxengines.ca/cox-.049-glow-head.html
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Originally Posted by Jagged Wing
I saw a post earlier, at 73 a member cant fly any more, couldn't turn and turn. Problem solved, 1 line to a post about 4 ft deep with a ring and a mono cable. A a Radio with 1 servo. Sit back in a lawn chair, and have at it. A heavy duty swivel on each end of the line would allow endless loops. Have fun.
I have often thought of making something like this. Looks a bit complicated with a rack and pinion.It seems that my pic will not load from facebook. There was a commercially made swivel that had a rack in the centre which was controlled up and down to a bellcrank which controlled the "handle" which was a triangle. It was on the Philly Fliers site. Lately there was another variant called the Revolution that was similar, it seems to have vanished. Maybe the $200 price tag was too much for guys to experiment with. I thought it was cheaper than some radios and may be a good thing for a speed plane. I can not fly in the pylon any more when going competetive speeds. I suppose a servo and single line would be easier. Since a receiver needs a battery, it almost seems like electric power might be a given, against my better judgement.
I would be afraid of the lines going slack.

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Old 04-12-2020, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mtrain
As I have said in another forum my first control line plane was a Cox Stuka.

It was in 1975, our last Christmas as a family before mom, and dad got divorced.

I was around 11 years old then, and had just recently flown my cousins Testor Flying Tiger. The Tiger was really fun, but a bit smaller than the Cox Stuka.

I wasn't adept enough back then to start, and fly the plane myself, so since my dad left I had to wait until that rare day that he would come over to start the engine.

Well about a year later he finally got around to it. I was so nervous, that when the plane was finally started/running there was a small crowd of kids gathered around.

I flew the Stuka one revolution before it started flying at an arch, then into the ground.

Then it was retired the closet, and finally lost to time.

Now I have another Stuka even with the original box to relive that day again.

So tell me what was your first plane, the year you got it, how old were you, and what was the story behind it..........thanks.
My first plane was a Cox Stuka, that I crashed on the first revolution and it was damaged beyond repair, it was probably 1966 or so. A few years later, I got a Goldberg trainer aircraft, I forget the name (little jumping bean?), it was 1/2 A and the motor was secured with rubber bands, it had a rubber band to keep the elevator up in case of slack liens, and it was built like a tank. I put a Testors 0.49 on it and learned how to fly successfully, probably in 1968. Went on to fly lots of Midwest profile stunters with Fox .25, Fox.35, etc. We used to move our engines around because we did not have the money to keep them on just one airplane. Moved on to RC and crashed my Falcon 56 and damaged it beyond repair - learned that I was more of a builder than a flyer, or very uncoordinated, or both.
Old 04-12-2020, 06:27 PM
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The Goldberg plane that had the engine held on with rubber bands was the Wizard.

Had one of those myself. Used it for an intro for others who wanted to try Ucontrol flying.


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Originally Posted by whittonm
A few years later, I got a Goldberg trainer aircraft, I forget the name (little jumping bean?)
Little Jumping Bean was the 1/2A version of Goldberg's Shoestring Racer.

Originally Posted by whittonm
it was 1/2 A and the motor was secured with rubber bands, it had a rubber band to keep the elevator up in case of slack liens, and it was built like a tank. I put a Testors 0.49 on it and learned how to fly successfully, probably in 1968.
May be the Li'l Whizard?

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A couple of my friends had those. One even let me fly his. I built the Stuntman 23. Which was anemic with the Cox .049 Golden Bee that I had. Don't remember how I got that. Climbs dives, wingovers, fine. I never did a loop, lazy eight, fly inverted with mine. It did need a little more "oomph" to feel better about stunts.
Old 04-12-2020, 09:17 PM
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Sorry do335a , I was posting my message, stepped away, completed it and after submitting, see you had already addressed the CG Li'l Wizard.

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A couple of my friends had those. One even let me fly his. I built the Stuntman 23. Which was anemic with the Cox .049 Golden Bee that I had. Don't remember how I got that. Climbs dives, wingovers, fine. I never did a loop, lazy eight, fly inverted with mine. It did need a little more "oomph" to feel better about stunts.
AFAIK, the Golden Bee had a freer flowing venturi system so it was a tad more powerful than the Babe Bee, but still had the same single bypass cylinder like the Babe Bee. I used the Babe Bee on a 21" span Sterling Beginner's Fokker E-III Eindecker profile, it had plenty of power. The later Black Widow had a dual bypass cylinder and as such was more powerful, probably would have been the right ticket for the Stuntman.

Half-A's are so affected by wind that I enjoy the heavier larger aircraft. My next CL aircraft I flew was the 38" span Sterling profile F-51 with a Testor McCoy .19 Red Head. After a 30" Sterling Ringmaster Jr. with OS .15FP, engine made it very nose heavy and as a result performance suffered although engine had more than enough power. 42" Sterling Ringmaster with Testor McCoy .35 Red Head was a pleasure to fly. I've got a few of the larger kits to build, 42" Sterling Hellcat profile, 33" Midwest P-40 Warhawk profile, 55" Brodak Focke Wulf FW-190 profile, 55" Brodak Continental profile.
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That's it!! Thanks for a trip down memory lane!
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You are welcome, whittonm . By the way, since we are a rural farming town of roughly 42k or so population, last year Plateau Tel, our local telecommunications company provided this as the front cover of their phone book to us:



That is definitely a CL aircraft and with of all things, a diesel engine. An interesting twist with about the right power for that Stuntman 23 would be of all things, the lower powered 1963 A.C. Gilbert (yes, the train company!) Thunderhead .11 glow motor.

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I had a Gilbert .11 not a very powerful engine. I think it came in a crashed plastic CL airplane that I was gifted. (1966-67) I put it on a profile P-47 maybe a Berkley kit. It was heavy as i recall. and I don't remember much about flying it. It had dual exhaust on the engine the picture is missing the starboard exhaust pipe.
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Didn’t Gilbert have an airplane too called the Wing Thing? I can’t remember if it was CL line, FF or simple RC
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I had a Cox Mustang, and a friend had the Corsair. We both found what anyone who has flow one learns. High wing loading and a highly cambered wing produces a plane that will not recover from a wing over. The engine survived and went on a Baby Flight Streak that actually flew well.

My last was a Sig Zlin Akrobat with a Fox .35. Have plans for an Ariel, and an O.S. 40. may build it. Would be my first ukie in fifty years.


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